TORONTO -- The Royal Canadian Legion is shutting down unauthorized retailers using its trademarked poppy symbol to sell merchandise on sites such as Facebook, Amazon and Shopify.
According to the legion, some of these companies are even falsely claiming to be connected to the legion or that they鈥檙e donating proceeds from their sales to the legion. A Royal Canadian Legion representative told CTVNews.ca by phone that the situation is 鈥渄isheartening.鈥
Legion communication director Nujma Bond said the trend of unauthorized use of their logos and symbols has been going on for several years and 鈥渋t seems to be getting worse.鈥
鈥淵ou can鈥檛 be offering different products for sale and say that you鈥檙e the legion,鈥 she said. 鈥淚t鈥檚 discouraging (that) people are using the legion鈥檚 name, reputation, and logo to take advantage of unsuspecting supporters of veterans and the legion.鈥
Bond said in some cases 鈥渋tems look legitimate but 鈥 have nothing to do with the legion.鈥
With more people looking for remembrance-related gifts during the holidays, Bond is irked these parties 鈥渙perate with seemingly no repercussions and it becomes up to the organization (the legion) to try and pursue this matter.鈥
She feels online sites need to proactively do more to clamp down on the practice because shutting down every single unauthorized retailer using the trademarked red poppy logo is 鈥渁lmost impossible.鈥 Compounding her difficulty is that, as far as the legion has been able to determine, there may not be any regulatory oversight of these activities.
It鈥檚 now become an endless -- and sometimes fruitless -- game of whack-a-mole, with one ad getting taken down, only for dozens more to pop up.
LEGION: AMAZON, FACEBOOK AREN鈥橳 DOING ENOUGH
When these alleged unauthorized retailers post clothing or merchandise ads on online sites such as Facebook or Amazon, it can be difficult to track down an address or a real person to notify them they鈥檙e infringing on the legion鈥檚 trademark.
In an email, Bond wrote that 鈥渁 whole load of products that infringe upon the legion鈥檚 trademark show up.鈥
Over the past couple years, legion representatives have tried imploring Amazon representatives but Bond said they received, 鈥渘o reply ever.鈥
CTVNews.ca reached out to Amazon but did not receive a response addressing the issue by publication time.
As for Facebook, Bond said 鈥渢hey have removed some ads in the past related to trademark violations but we鈥檝e noticed a change, and we are now not having any luck getting a response related to fraudulent sites selling items.鈥
A Facebook spokesperson didn鈥檛 address the legion鈥檚 ongoing struggle directly, how sellers can simply repost flagged ads or why the legion鈥檚 outreach to them has been ignored recently.
But in an email, they wrote, 鈥渋n line with our community standards, we take prompt action against IP infringement and we remove content aimed at deliberately deceiving people to gain an unfair advantage or deprive another of money, property, or legal right.鈥
The legion has had better luck dealing with e-commerce company Shopify, who Bond said 鈥渉ave removed fraudulent sites in the past that we鈥檝e been able to trace to their platform.鈥
Online shopping site Amazon is shown Wednesday, November 6, 2013. (Ryan Remiorz/THE CANADIAN PRESS)
SELLERS DIFFICULT TO TRACK DOWN
Bond said the large part of the problem is identifying and shutting down unauthorized uses on dozens of other sites on the internet, which can be hosted by unknown parties overseas.
She said in these particular cases, it鈥檚 extremely difficult to enforce their trademark because 鈥渨e can鈥檛 figure out who鈥檚 behind this.鈥
Ridout & Maybee LLP lawyer Timothy Bourne, who鈥檚 attempting to help the Legion clamp down on unauthorized uses of the poppy logo, said tracking down alleged online infringers and sending them trademark notices is 鈥渇iscally impractical.鈥
鈥淯nfortunately in online context, traditional IP (intellectual property) enforcement methods often don鈥檛 work,鈥 he said in a phone interview with CTVNews.ca, adding that sending these notices to alleged online infringers can be 鈥渧ery expensive.鈥
Often people don鈥檛 have a physical contact in Canada and can easily hock their products through sites such as eBay or Amazon, 鈥渟o there are no people on the ground who we can go to try 鈥 and negotiate some sort of resolution,鈥 Bourne said.
And when it鈥檚 overseas, 鈥渢hreat of litigation doesn鈥檛 carry as much weight as you want it to.鈥
, use of the red poppy logo for profit in the context of memorial, remembrance or accompanying related phrases such as 鈥淟est We Forget鈥 are all trademarked.
鈥淯sage is misrepresented as the Legion鈥檚 Poppy by associating it with remembrance or the raising of monies for a purpose other than the Poppy Campaign,鈥 it stated. The only authorized sellers are through or , with Bond saying, 鈥渁nything else can be deemed to be fraudulent activity.鈥
The legion said the reason for this is to ensure the red poppy logo is used respectively and that profits raised ultimately go towards veterans. If someone wants to use the poppy in terms of remembrance to gain a profit, they鈥檇 need to contact the legion headquarters.
Canadian flags are displayed at The Royal Canadian Legion, St. James Branch No. 4 in Winnipeg, Thursday, November 8, 2018. THE CANADIAN PRESS/John Woods
CAN ANYTHING BE DONE?
Another aspect to this is the fact that there aren鈥檛 any proactive government efforts to shut down unauthorized uses of the poppy logo 鈥 with the onus being on the legion to track down and find every single case themselves.
In a statement, Innovation, Science and Economic Development Canada鈥檚 intellectual property office said that 鈥渋t is up to a trademark owner to make sure nobody is using their trademark without their permission and to take action if someone does.鈥
Veterans Affairs Canada, which does not deal with enforcement of trademark issues, told CTVNews.ca in a statement that it is 鈥渃oncerned that people may be attempting to deceptively profit on the name of The Royal Canadian Legion.鈥 And it added, 鈥淐anadians are encouraged to report fraudulent or suspicious activity to the Canadian Anti-Fraud Centre, and instances of misleading or deceptive marketing practices to the Competition Bureau.鈥
In addition to continuing to petition sites such as Facebook or Amazon, Bond said the legion鈥檚 next steps include attempting to work with Internet Service Providers to presumably get them to convey warnings.
But despite the seemingly unyielding flood of unauthorized sellers, she said that the legion is 鈥渧ery hopeful that at some point we will be able to be able to receive some sort of assistance to combat this problem.鈥
